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I don't remember exactly what the top speed worked out to be, but it was somewhere in the range of 180-190 km/h (112-118 mph) in 6th at redline.
Rechecked the numbers:
Primary Drive Ratio = 71/23 (~3.09)
6th Gear Ratio = 24/28 (~0.86)
Final Drive Ratio = 42/14 (~3)
Redline = 13500 RPM
Rear Wheel Circumference = 1.972 meters (taken from https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=140-70r17)

Now for the math:
13500 * 3.09 * 0.86 * 3 = 1700 wheel RPM
1700 * 1.972 = 3354 m/min
60 min / 1 hr and 1 km / 1000m, therefore
3354 * 60 / 1000 = 201.2 km/h, or 125 mph

A bike with stock gearing and tire size cannot exceed 200 km/hr (125 mph) without exceeding the redline.

Please feel free to check the math, I will then consider it 'peer reviewed' :p

I cannot say for sure whether to expect this as a reasonable max for the average rider, seeing as you are likely to run out of steam before reaching it (again, on a stock bike). The data posted by @vulgr shows that skilled folk are able to really squeeze every last little bit of juice out of the little Ninja, which I consider a testament to their skills. They are really riding to the limits of this machine.
 

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My advice is invest in a very good quality helmet or ear buds to save your hearing.
And i tuck anything faster than 70mph.
Also... semi trucks are a pain to be behind, get in front at any chance you get or the wind throws you.

I drive super aggressive. Avg commute to and from is like 45 minutes but i do it in 30, ducking and weaving through traffic.

Also did a gps recorded trip and my speedo hit 113. Max registered is 110.2 woot
I don't do triple figures in my car on the interstate. Max I go is 15 over with a radar detector. If a cop spots you going that fast your in trouble. Maybe your area is light but here in IL that would be asking for trouble.
 

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If a cop spots you going that fast your in trouble.
Not to mention the speeding ticked of that magnitude in on top of an at-fault accident that wrote of a couple-month-old bike within the same calendar year would raise insurance rates or even make someone un-insurable. At least around here it would.
 

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While i can see your concern. The totalled 650 was because i was braking after coming out of a corner with a construction worker holding a stop sign.
I was actually only going 30-35 around the corner.

And i was almost driven off the road a moment ago while getting off my lunch break. People around here are stupid and most of them drive under the speed limit by significant amounts.

Tl;dr
Wasnt my fault for totalling the 650

People driving around here a fking stupid.

P.s. i live in east tennessee. Hillbilly territory, and home of old people galore
Then you were still going too fast for the conditions and your skill level. If what you said was true, then 30-35 mph was too fast for your ability/conditions present. You went faster than your vision and ability could handle and paid for it. Before this, you admitted to very overly aggressive riding, suggesting it as a perfectly okay thing to do to a brand new rider.


I only commented because it seemed it was fairly obvious what now went wrong on the 650 and that seemingly you didn't quite learn the lesson and instead passed blame off on the construction worker who was established at that spot long well before you go there. You should be taking blind corners at a speed that allows you to react and stop the moment you spot trouble because you never know what could be around the bend. There can be all kinds of crazy shit just waiting for you around the bend so you really need to get good or slow down or do both. You need to accept the fact that you were going too fast for the conditions of that turn and were above your head to react to it.

As far as getting ran off the road, happens to many of us all the time and it's not just a TN thing. People drive like idiots everywhere and it's not just confined to the South or even to just American but is a world-wide pandemic. The best thing to do when you're on the road is to have an escape plan in mind and be really good at braking. You can't outrun stupid as what happens many times is you end up escaping one group of idiots just to be now going too fast as you charge right into the next cluster of stupid. I've never been a fan of throttling your way out of all trouble as it seems to just propel you quicker into the next bit of it and now with a lot less reaction time and a lot more energy involved.

Good gear, highly proficient braking technique, good throttle control/discipline should be at the very top of the list for new riders. You should be worrying a lot less about how fast you can go and more worried about how not to get creamed and throwing more fuel on the fire.
 

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Then you were still going too fast for the conditions and your skill level. If what you said was true, then 30-35 mph was too fast for your ability/conditions present. You went faster than your vision and ability could handle and paid for it. Before this, you admitted to very overly aggressive riding, suggesting it as a perfectly okay thing to do to a brand new rider.


I only commented because it seemed it was fairly obvious what now went wrong on the 650 and that seemingly you didn't quite learn the lesson and instead passed blame off on the construction worker who was established at that spot long well before you go there. You should be taking blind corners at a speed that allows you to react and stop the moment you spot trouble because you never know what could be around the bend. There can be all kinds of crazy shit just waiting for you around the bend so you really need to get good or slow down or do both. You need to accept the fact that you were going too fast for the conditions of that turn and were above your head to react to it.

As far as getting ran off the road, happens to many of us all the time and it's not just a TN thing. People drive like idiots everywhere and it's not just confined to the South or even to just American but is a world-wide pandemic. The best thing to do when you're on the road is to have an escape plan in mind and be really good at braking. You can't outrun stupid as what happens many times is you end up escaping one group of idiots just to be now going too fast as you charge right into the next cluster of stupid. I've never been a fan of throttling your way out of all trouble as it seems to just propel you quicker into the next bit of it and now with a lot less reaction time and a lot more energy involved.

Good gear, highly proficient braking technique, good throttle control/discipline should be at the very top of the list for new riders. You should be worrying a lot less about how fast you can go and more worried about how not to get creamed and throwing more fuel on the fire.
Good advice freelancerMG.

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Uhhh, no.
The construction company was at fault even the police said so.
There was a corner and a hill inside this corner. And when i came out of the apex i saw him 30 feet away.
Impossible to brake 30 feet at 30mph i think.

I can go back to where it was.
Take pictures and show everyone the area.

And i havent seen a parked police car for 2 weeks. I see them super often going the other direction, so nothing to worry about. And i know all the police spots which i slow down to 65-75 before passing.

And my insurance atm is 55/mo.
Full coverage $100 deductibles and msf discount
 

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Uhhh, no.
The construction company was at fault even the police said so.
There was a corner and a hill inside this corner. And when i came out of the apex i saw him 30 feet away.
Impossible to brake 30 feet at 30mph i think.

I can go back to where it was.
Take pictures and show everyone the area.

And i havent seen a parked police car for 2 weeks. I see them super often going the other direction, so nothing to worry about. And i know all the police spots which i slow down to 65-75 before passing.

And my insurance atm is 55/mo.
Full coverage $100 deductibles and msf discount
That's literally the definition of going faster than your sight and skills. If what you see while going through a corner can't be stopped for, that means you were going too damn fast. That's quite literally the definition of riding past your vision. I also highly doubt the cop would be finding the construction company for being at fault. They need to do work sometime and the job of the guy with the sign is to stop traffic so he needs to be in the road. He was in the road well before you got there and if you hadn't been going faster than what you could see, you would have been able to stop.
If all you can see is 30 feet in front of you at all times as you go through a corner then you need to be going a speed that allows you to stop before 30 feet (not at 30 feet as that still technically means you hit whatever you just spotted.) If 30 feet is your visibility limit in that corner, then you may want to travel at a speed that'll let you stop in around 20 feet. This corner was probably rated at 15 mph and probably had that advisory sign just before it.


Also, you shouldn't only be doing the right thing when you see a cop around. That whole integrity thing says that you should be doing the right thing even when no one is there to watch you. You're getting lucky with the cops as the cops sitting there out in the open are doing so more as a deterrent and they aren't really hunting for tickets. A highway patrolman that's out to bust a ticket quota ( either real or perceived,) wont be easily spotted until you pass him and by the time you see them then, it's too late. You're luck will run out as it's only a matter of time before you find the cop that's had a bad day and just wants to hand out citations and will set themselves up accordingly to do it.

I also don't understand what your insurance rate has to do with anything as that changes wildly with location and person. Although based one what I pay now for full coverage on a GSXR 750 and WR250R combined, your rate seems a bit high relatively to myself in So Cal which should have higher base rates than TN.
 

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I also don't understand what your insurance rate has to do with anything
I only brought up insurance rates as an aside. I know up here, if you have an at-fault accident the rates go up, especially if you have only been riding a few months. Risking a large speeding ticket on top of that is just asking to have your coverage dropped. But up here our rates are pretty steep to begin with so it is certainly not a universal experience.

I 100% agree with the statement she was riding beyond her visibility. If you are riding (or driving for that matter) so fast that you cannot effectively stop before hitting something just as it enters your view, you need to slow TF down before you hurt yourself or others.

When the snow starts falling here we have the "annual general meeting of the summer-tires club" in which people forget that they can't drive as fast on snow with summer tires on and end up in the ditches and medians. Although not directly related to vision, this is the same scenario in which you are driving in a manner where reaction time and stopping distance disagree, and physics wins every time.

What concerns me the most is the lack of responsibility. Pushing the blame off on others makes for a stunted learning experience. In my estimation, we should always be striving to improve in all aspects of our lives. Instead of saying "How dare that construction worker be doing their damn job and 'make' me run off the road when I couldn't stop in time," I would be thinking, "Clearly that didn't work, what can I do different to avoid a similar result in a similar situation." Adding on to that, I will pass on some words of wisdom one of my flight instructors gave me and I pass along to all my students too, "Learn from the mistakes of others, you will not live long enough to make them all yourself."

Happy trails, stay safe, and keep the rubber-side down.
 

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[...] when i came out of the apex i saw him 30 feet away.
Impossible to brake 30 feet at 30mph i think.[...]
I don't even ride yet and I know why that argument is bad. If you can't stop within what you can see, then you are going too fast.
 

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Guess no one lives in a really hilly area like i do... this isnt florida or kansas XD
 

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Guess no one lives in a really hilly area like i do... this isnt florida or kansas XD
I don't think that is really relevant. If you live anywhere where there are obstacles preventing you from seeing through the inside of the corner... it is unsafe to drive faster than a speed where you can stop within the distance you can see. It's as simple as that. Same goes for night driving and the distance your lights can illuminate.

While the traction and road conditions will ALLOW you to physically travel faster, it is unwise. Just because you have grip to corner at 80kph doesn't mean that you should. The sad part is that your gamble could cost someone else dearly.

Just my opinion but it is likely shared by most.
 

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Guess no one lives in a really hilly area like i do... this isnt florida or kansas XD
Think of it this way: when it gets foggy and you can only see 20-30 feet in front of you, the road doesn't change, but people slow down anyway so they can stop if they see something unexpectedly appear at the edge of the visible road.

Going through a corner more or less blind is the same thing, regardless of hills or other obstacles.

If you can't see it, you can't stop for it.
 

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I've hit 111 on a "track".

BTW I don't think the ninjas combustion ratio will make due with that 93 octane.
I could be wrong though. I use cheap ol' Techron 89.
 

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Guess no one lives in a really hilly area like i do... this isnt florida or kansas XD
Lots of people live in really hilly areas, probably much more so than you, and manage to drive safely. The key is if you can't stop within the distance you can see, you are driving too fast. This is the same advice you have gotten from several people now and it's still not sinking in so it might be time to retire before you kill someone.
 

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top speed ninja 300

While i can see your concern. The totalled 650 was because i was braking after coming out of a corner with a construction worker holding a stop sign.
I was actually only going 30-35 around the corner.

And i was almost driven off the road a moment ago while getting off my lunch break. People around here are stupid and most of them drive under the speed limit by significant amounts.

Tl;dr
Wasnt my fault for totalling the 650

People driving around here a fking stupid.

P.s. i live in east tennessee. Hillbilly territory, and home of old people galore
my ninja does 105 and gps 100 2016 model
 

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I'll play. 101 GPS'd at circuits of the Americas. Completely stock bike except tires and rear sets.
 

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I've hit 100mph and the bike still seemed to have plenty room to go faster (speed cameras so i had to slow down). Also i have sat at 90mph with someone on the back, overall weight must have been easily over 150kg and she seemed very comfy, wasn't struggling to speed up to overtake. Does this mean my speedo is way off? I need to check with a gps still.
 

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Hello All,
I did 114 mph it flickers 114 to 115 . Thats the max it goes maybe because it has 5" rim 160/60R17 and KnN air filter. :D
 
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