[gottheneed]

Have you ever used one on any of your bikes? I am a fan of the Valentine V1 for autos but am just starting to research the use of Laser/Radar detectors and jammers on motorcycles. What's your experience with them? Issues as far as weather ability, alert notification?

I am not looking for an excuse to do stupid shit. I see these as an investment against higher insurance rates that can last YEARS. Please keep comments strictly about the products you've used and your experiences with them.

Thanks!

 

[Ax722]

V1 is a great detector but I use it for my car. Most cops now don't drive with there radar in anymore but now resort to laser. Laser is the speed of light so no detector will detect it in time only when it's too late. Jammers are illegal and range to $500. Cops will know you have a jammer considering when they tag you nothing will show up and you can et they will come after you hahaha. Make sure you check your local laws for things like that.


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[gottheneed]

Thanks for the reply! I am living in Pa right now where Radar is used by the state police. The local county coppers cannot use radar or laser and must time you crossing two predetermined painted lines in the road to calculate your speed. These are obvious and I know where they are locally. I have heard that only Philly cops use laser but am not positive. Detectors are legal here.

I have lived in Portland Oregon for the last decade and plan on returning before years end where detectors are also legal.

Technically, laser jammers are also legal in both of these states but they are restricted by the federal government. I really am not interested in jammers but figured I'd throw it in there to see if anyone has used them.

 

[Captain]

Most of my cop buddies know how to work around detectors now.

More people have em then not, so they learn their own tricks.

For example, my highway patrol friend will sit on the freeway and turn off his radar. Once he sees someone coming that is speeding, he turns it on. Works similar to a laser where you don't have time to slow down before he records it.

I do have one in my truck, but I don't think it would be safe on a bike. In my truck I listen for it rather then look at it. On a bike there is no way you'll be able to hear it. Thus your eyes will either be off the road, or you won't even see it if its activated.


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[gottheneed]

This site has some interesting products for motorbikes.

http://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/gear/products

The detector has an earpiece for your helmet and is waterproof.

 

[Captain]

Costs twice as much as a speeding ticket. Do you really plan on going that fast all the time? I find I am a better radar detector then the machines. You should be constantly aware of your surroundings when on a bike. Thus you should see the cop before he sees you. But this is my opinion. If you want it. Get it. But id rather spend $300 on something worthwhile.


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[bigwood212]

So far most of what has been said is false.

 

[bigwood212]

The majority of law enforcement agencies still use radar.
Laser jammers are not illegal in most states.
TPD, PIMA county and DPS all generally leave their radar on while driving around Tucson.
Even when your friend with DPS uses hold mode as soon as he shoots one person everyone in the area will pick it up. It will also take him an amount of time to get a reading. The time and distance varies by size and shape of the vehicle. If your on a motorcycle it's going to take longer so you get more time to slow down.

Get a radar detector with GPS like the escort 9500ix and it will tell you where all the speed cameras and red light cameras are. It will even tell you known enforcement points and lock out false readings by locations.

Stay away from cobra.
Go to the link below for tons of info
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/forum.php

 

[FreelancerMG]

So far most of what has been said is false.

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Such as?

 

[gottheneed]

Costs twice as much as a speeding ticket. Do you really plan on going that fast all the time? I find I am a better radar detector then the machines. You should be constantly aware of your surroundings when on a bike. Thus you should see the cop before he sees you. But this is my opinion. If you want it. Get it. But id rather spend $300 on something worthwhile.


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Read my posts please. It's not just the ticket but the increased rates you pay for years after that make detectors worth it. I am looking for first hand opinions from people who have used them on bikes and you have obviously not.

 

[Ax722]

Jammers are cool, I've never used them personally but you can look on YouTube and also look on reviews. I can't help you with hammers sorry. You're right not all states prohibit jammers or detectors... Last thing you want though is to go on a road trip and they are illegal. Just make sure to check local laws. But jammers are expensive! Wow! They better work for that much


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[bigwood212]

I have a 9500ix in my car. It works great.

 

[Adrastos]

If I were going all out where price wasn't so much a concern and I wanted something that works well for a motorcycle I would combine these.

https://www.beltronics.com/store/sti-magnum.html
The Beltronics STi Magnum radar/laser detector, it has heavy shielding on it so its a step ahead of some other radar detectors in that it is not detectable by VG2 and Spectre (which of course are radar detector .. detectors) (useful if detectors are less then legal where you live). It is up to date on all the latest radar bands.

http://www.speedcheetah.com/scshop/page.php?xPage=Vizalert.html
And this (Cheetah VizAlert V2 heads-up display) so that everything will work inside your helmet. It will tell you what type of detection (laser, radar band, etc) is occurring based on assigned color LEDs that light up in your peripheral vision. (It has a light sensor that dims the brightness of the LED's so they aren't to bright in your eyes at night) The system is waterproof and wireless and is compatible with the previously mentioned STi Magnum and also the Valentine V1 (they also have interface adapters for many other detector/jammers)

http://www.speedcheetah.com/scshop/page.php?xPage=BlinderM27.html
Finally, I would buy the Cheetah Blinder M27 laser jammer (compatible with the VizAlert V2) Now if laser jammers are not legal where you live it also works and is classified as a parking assist laser and garage door opener (I highly doubt a cop would buy any story about why you need it if its on a bike. You could always try telling them you race the bike at a track occasionally and are new or something and since you have to tape up your mirrors you use it to tell if someone is behind you...... lol) I am not sure if you can still buy these however. If not then you can get an adapter from Cheetah that lets you use your own laser jammer and have it work with the VizAlert V2

If you live in the States you can buy the Cheetah products through their USA specific store site. They show prices and they do 5$ flat rate shipping. You can also buy from their listed retailers. As far as I know there is only 1 retailer for Canada at the moment.

USA Online shop site http://www.cheetahusa.com/scshop/index.html
USA dealers http://www.cheetahusa.com/scshop/resellers_usa.html
Canadian Dealer http://www.kmph.ca/products/laser-protection/

http://www.nophoto.com/
Edit- I would also keep an eye on this company as they make a pretty interesting product for cars. It is called the noPhoto and it is a license plate frame that has a detector on it that is specifically tuned to the flash used on a speed/red light camera. Once it detects the speed/red light cameras flash it fires off two integrated hidden flash bulbs of its own that blast the license plate with light. This essentially over exposes the plate with light and the camera only gets to see a white blob of light instead of your license plate numbers. They could scale it down for motorcycles fairly easily I imagine. It would not be noticeable to other drivers or police during the day or at night because the flash of light that occurs only lasts a fraction of a second. I mean if you were REALLY paying attention and looking for it you might be able to catch a bit of a flicker at night.

(They have a video on the site showing how it works as well. Personally I would not use this for running red lights but it does happen to work for that as well. The only way I might is the situation where the bike can't trigger a green light and a couple cycles of the light have happend and there is no one around but there is still a red light camera at the intersection.)

 

[xtrapsi]

https://www.cobra.com/detail/cobra-...ion-system-for-iphone-and-android-devices.cfm

New system with bluetooth connectivity to iOS.
I wonder if this would work mounted under the headlight and connected with the phone and a headset...

 

[Muilisx]

I use a old Cobra in my car, very outdated, about 7 years old. Still works like a charm, saved me a bunch of times. Cost me like $80. No reason for a $500 detector, imo.

 

[accelerus]

I Will agree that most of what's been said here is false.

Valentine 1 - is indeed one of the best radar/laser *detectors* you can buy. It's worth it's weight in gold pretty much.

Jammers -- I ran a Laser Interceptor Quad system on my 08 Z06 -- and while expensive, it too is worthwhile if used correctly. Those last 3 words being the most important.

Anyone who buys any system thinking they are going to be immune and get away scott free has another thing coming. Jammers are not illegal in every state, when I bought mine it was fully legal in Texas (that has since changed) Most jammers also serve dual purpose as a parking aid. (mine did) so there is a huge grey area.

If you get hit by laser/lidar, it's pretty much instant. With a jammer - it buys you time. Guysoflidar.com (i think that's the site) did all sorts of tests and its possible for a cop to "punch through" sometimes and still get your speed.

You are pretty much begging for a ticket if you fully jam a police officer - when I used mine, my V1 would give me the alert, I'd quickly and discretely scrub off any excess speed and then hit the quick kill switch on my Laser Interceptor system.

The fact it was a Velocity Yellow Z06 means I'd get targeted all the time, and there are more than a few cops who would be happy to give me a ticket even if I Was just doing a few mph (5) above the limit because "that young kid in the Z06 can afford it".

Jokes on them though - I sold it a few months ago in prep to buy a house LOL.

Check your state laws -- and learn how to use the thing properly. The whole idea for a radar/laser/lidar detector OR jammer is to buy you the extra few seconds you need, not to fully jam their guns.

 

[FreelancerMG]

Stay away from LIDAR/RADAR jammers. Those are regulated by the FCC and it's illegal to operate an unaccepted device on emergency(police,) frequencies. A detector is generally cool by federal law since it doesn't transmit on the frequency, just listens in on it. DO NOT get anything that actively transmits on those frequencies. If a cop catches you use one of those, they will have no qualms throwing you to the feds to accept your $50,000 fine on top of the ticket you're going to get from them.

 

[SnowCrash]

V1 is a great detector but I use it for my car. Most cops now don't drive with there radar in anymore but now resort to laser. Laser is the speed of light so no detector will detect it in time only when it's too late. Jammers are illegal and range to $500. Cops will know you have a jammer considering when they tag you nothing will show up and you can et they will come after you hahaha. Make sure you check your local laws for things like that.


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Jammers are not illegal.....at least in TX it isn't

 

[FreelancerMG]

Jammers are not illegal.....at least in TX it isn't

RADAR/LIDAR jammers are but laser jammers are regulated at the state/city level.

 

[Tzar Kizitski]

Sticking to the speed limit and concentrating on the road usually works for me! Got hit with a $150 fine doing 19kmh over the limit by a cop on a bike hidden behind a roundabout. I was thinking about what to have for dinner and wasn't concentrating on the road. My speed drifted over the limit and it was the cop who had me for dinner! Nice bloke though! Told me I had a nice car and that I was 1kmh under from getting a $300 fine..."It happens to the best of us" he said.

All the time I was thinking to myself, if I told him I was not speeding and not fess up and that it was his laser hand held that was giving an incorrect reading, would he have let me go...I started to think of dinner again...

Moral of the story, if a cop is going to get you for speeding, chances are that you are going to get done, especially those with laser hand held speed guns.