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I can't say for sure. Lots of people use higher octane than is required and swear the engine runs better and improves mileage. Others say it ain't so. I use 87 octane in the Ninja 300, but premium in my other 3 bikes because they all require 90 octane (or higher) which means premium...93 octane here. Super is 89 octane. If I develop any detonation problems or dieseling, I might try the 89 octane, but so far the bike runs great on 87 octane. I buy my gas from Murphy oil associated with Walmart to get it 3 cents cheaper than anywhere else. Seems like good gas.
 

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I like Chevron and use 89
 
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Chevron is suppose to have the best fuel, at least I heard.
That's what I learned a long time ago and is why that is all I have used for the last 15+ years in all my vehicles.

The other thing to consider with gasoline is that you shouldn't be just worried about detonation and poor gas mileage. But also carbon buildup, degradation of emission equipment, and a slew of other issues that poor grade gasoline causes. One may save a couple bucks per fillup, but in the long run, your vehicle pays the price in terms of reliability. One of the prime examples I can offer is that poor grade gasoline can lead to the premature wear of your catalytic converter. And we all know on cars those aren't cheap to replace.
 

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That's what I learned a long time ago and is why that is all I have used for the last 15+ years in all my vehicles.

The other thing to consider with gasoline is that you shouldn't be just worried about detonation and poor gas mileage. But also carbon buildup, degradation of emission equipment, and a slew of other issues that poor grade gasoline causes. One may save a couple bucks per fillup, but in the long run, your vehicle pays the price in terms of reliability. One of the prime examples I can offer is that poor grade gasoline can lead to the premature wear of your catalytic converter. And we all know on cars those aren't cheap to replace.
Except now a days, all gasoline is federally controlled and regulated for formulation and standard. You really don't have to worry about "sub-standard" gas anymore. If it does happen, it's considered a freak accident and you're able to get any damaged equipment from it replaced on their dime. Every gas station has samples taken from all of their tanks on at least a monthly basis as well as all refineries are constantly getting sampled to ensure they meet standards. This goes for all imported fuel as well. Everything gets sampled and tested before distribution and storage. Most stations even though they are under different brands have the exact same fuel supplier. Also, I wouldn't really worry about which company has the better fuel. It hasn't been proven one way or another that one set of additives are better than another. I've yet to see a report from the DOT or any other reputable lab yet to confirm one way or another. Things are different than what they were 15-20 years ago and the standards have gone way up and much more controlled.
 

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why wont you put the best possible gaz in your ride?
i can't understand that
Because it's all just a giant smoke and mirrors game. All the fuel you get comes from the same 3 sources the world over and the refineries all share the same technology and techniques. All the petrol companies work very closely with each other. Also all fuel is already under a very high federal standard and get tested and sampled very regularly. A breach of standard results in huge fines and having the entire stock pulled off of market. No company would ever risk it's own ass pushing an "inferior" product when such a thing could potentially cripple them. There isn't a single scientific paper yet from a reputable unbiased source that has called one fuel better than another. Also gas stations themselves are a franchise and don't have a hand at all in the quality of fuel. They get their fuel from a contracted source, it gets pumped into their tanks and that's that. Get what fuel you want, as you want, but don't think that one "brand" is better than the other.
 

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It's already been debunked in many other sources that running premium fuel in a machine that isn't tuned and designed for it is just throwing money away. Hell, even the refiners have pages out that debunk using premium in engines that don't need it. Use what you need to prevent knocking and save your money for other things. That $2 per fill up you save from not getting full 91/93 octane adds up after a year. Especially since the engine doesn't get the compression needed to really make use of higher octanes. The "premium" title is just a money making moniker to get "sheeple" to put more money down.
 

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You do understand its listed to use 87 in the owners manual right? I got a gold brick I will sell you for $1.00 or I got a can of fish I will sell to you for $500000.00 keep in mind its more so it must be better.:rolleyes:
The manual says " minimum " of 87....meaning, you can put higher
 

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The manual says " minimum " of 87....meaning, you can put higher
They tell you that because if you are below sea level and it's hot out, 87 may knock. You'll have to up it to 89+ to stop the knocking. If they said ONLY 87 anti knock index fuel, people would damage their engines in these places because they wouldn't use anything higher because the "manual" said so. There isn't a car manual around that uses a definitive "87 ONLY" It always says a minimum of 87 or as conditions require. If you're at sea level and it's not over 120 degrees out, you're not getting a single benefit from using a higher knock index fuel. For those of you crazies living in death valley, all like 6 of you, you'll probably have to use a higher indexed fuel. The engine will run with the higher indexed stuff, you just aren't getting any of the benefits of it since the engine doesn't magically change it's compression for it.
 

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It's like flair. The minimum is just where you start! :D
 

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Ran 87 (no ethanol) with a full exhaust before the PCV arrived and had no issues/pinging.

If the fuel you have to chose from comes with ethanol then I'd go for the next grade up.
 
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