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So I got the Hid's finally, I just purchased a 6K kit to test the waters (never worked on a bike in my life before and only had this one, being my first bike for about 3 days)

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I debated if I should start that night after work but I thought it would take me a little bit to get used too so I didn't


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So to start with I took of the two smaller side fairings, as for this one I didn't want to damage any of the panels so I knew I would be taking them all off

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Bike completely stripped before I removed the coolant take just for a bit more room (my hands are quite big)

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The finished product

It was really intimidating for me to do as I've never worked on a bike, but honestly I've done Hid's now for 3 years or any and all cars, it's the simple lest mod, and takes about 1hour to complete...

For the wiring, I simply made a small hole in the rubber cover for the headlight housing and threaded the silicone plug for the wiring harness of the hid kit, it's looks simple but clean and almost stock

Now ballast location, this is tricky, there are a couple places but for me the best I found was right behind the coolant tank, it's the best out of place there is no tension l on the wires, and lets you get full lock going both left and right

I've probably missed a couple things, if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask, I was just looking up how to do it and no one really has any write ups on it, hopefully this helps, also if you need more pictures or even a hand feel free to message me I love doing these things guys :)

Hope you enjoy :)


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Nice job. Eight more bolts and you could have got the whole headlight assembly off and make it easier lol. Four to take off mirrors and 4 holding the headlight assembly in place.
 

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Yeah you do have to take off all the fairings. I only see one side so I assumed you took everything off lol

I've tore my bike off so many times, it takes like 15 min for me to take everything off. And I know where every screws go, so putting it back together is easy.
 

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I have a question, there is a perceived idea that if you install HIDS in the stock housing by themselves (without projectors) the light will blind everyone in the road (as it bounces all over the housing).

TBH I'm not entirely sure this a is true, but it does seem plausible. Can you take some pics at night about 3 car lengths away to see how the light output is seen by other motorist?

If it does blind people I was thinking about painting the reflective surface black, as this will absorb a lot of the light and theoradicaly not blind everyone. I like the projectors but find them somewhat unreliable and expensive.


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Hey guys sorry about the delay, yeah for sure I'm on nights but tomorrow I will take photos at night and post them, it is kind of blinding, but mine aren't Angled yet, I don't ride at night as I'm only a M1 rider but its the smallest bit of light that sur passes normal levels. Ill post a pic tomorrow/ video as well :)


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I have a question, there is a perceived idea that if you install HIDS in the stock housing by themselves (without projectors) the light will blind everyone in the road (as it bounces all over the housing).

TBH I'm not entirely sure this a is true, but it does seem plausible. Can you take some pics at night about 3 car lengths away to see how the light output is seen by other motorist?

If it does blind people I was thinking about painting the reflective surface black, as this will absorb a lot of the light and theoradicaly not blind everyone. I like the projectors but find them somewhat unreliable and expensive.


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No its not a perceived idea, it does throw light all over the place. The problem with HID's is that when your bike or car is at a standstill and not moving, the light beam my look ok and focussed. But as soon as you start moving, and the car/bike goes over bumps......when you accelerate and decel.......the light is thrown around a bit and is not only blinding, but also very distracting for others coming towards you. The bulb itself moves/vibrates a little in the housing and the movement of the vehicle itself. Not to mention if the approaching vehicles are above your level on the road.

I can see perfectly fine with the stock lights, and my local roads are very poorly lit and some not at all. If upgrading my lights makes a little bit more light on the road for me, but at the expense of causing distraction to others coming towards me.....I'll stick with the stock bulbs or a better version of the stock bulb. I have the better version of the stock bulb, a Phillips Diamond Vision I think they were called. At least 20-30% more light on the road.

One thing you dont really want travelling towards you at a high rate of speed? A few tonne of steel with a distracted operator. We have enough distractions when driving cars as it is these days, dont add to those distractions IMO.
 

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I put some Denali DM1's on my forks and they give me all the additional light when I need it, plus being LED they draw very little power.
 

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All this talk... You have to remember your talking about a bulb, regardless of color it's a bulb... Most people think they angle light higher... They don't they do the exact same as the stock lights, again just a bulb. Especially if in your argument, your explain you put more powerful bulbs similar to stock.. The only thing distracting drivers is the different color, and its not even the color it's the out of the ordinary and In that defence your LEDs whether colored or white or yellow are just as distracting as Hid's are


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Ok sorry it took quite a while to get them up, just with work and trying to get both my bike and car out it was tricky aha... Anyways just a coupleshots let me know if you want to see something specifically and I will try my best to do it up...

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So here we got just the hid on, warmed up fully about 2 feet away from a wall, the bike is fully vertical on a flat surface

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So this is what I was going on about in my little rant, as you can see the light's throw is identical just a different color and brighter, it's not any more or less blinding just attention is drawn due to the fact it's a different color

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Tried for this shot, but I didn't have a second person, the light looks awful compared to my cars Hid's, but the bike is on its side stand and the handbar is all the way to the left so its essentially angled the light directly to the camera

FOR THE RECORD MY CAR IS LOWERED... SO TECHNICALLY YOU SHOULD BE IMAGINING THE PROJECTION OF THE LIGHT BEAM A LITTLE LOWER ON THE CAR


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Pulled up behind my car, about 2 feet... Again bike is vertical and on a flat surface. As you can see a majority of the light is on the licence plate...

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About 10 feet away, again all of the light on the bumper/trunk/licence plate area, almost nothing on rear windshield/mirrors

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As you can see though, a couple light streaks (that follow the "aggressive eye" design of the headlights" are projected on the light post, but won't be blinding any drivers in front of you as it's soon far right and up


Hopefully this helps, answers some questions, let me know if I missed anything got anything wrong, again it's all personal preference and choice... You don't like it I guess don't do it, but I like them so I choose to do them

Thanks for reading


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Ok sorry it took quite a while to get them up, just with work and trying to get both my bike and car out it was tricky aha... Anyways just a coupleshots let me know if you want to see something specifically and I will try my best to do it up...

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So here we got just the hid on, warmed up fully about 2 feet away from a wall, the bike is fully vertical on a flat surface

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So this is what I was going on about in my little rant, as you can see the light's throw is identical just a different color and brighter, it's not any more or less blinding just attention is drawn due to the fact it's a different color

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Tried for this shot, but I didn't have a second person, the light looks awful compared to my cars Hid's, but the bike is on its side stand and the handbar is all the way to the left so its essentially angled the light directly to the camera

FOR THE RECORD MY CAR IS LOWERED... SO TECHNICALLY YOU SHOULD BE IMAGINING THE PROJECTION OF THE LIGHT BEAM A LITTLE LOWER ON THE CAR


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Pulled up behind my car, about 2 feet... Again bike is vertical and on a flat surface. As you can see a majority of the light is on the licence plate...

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About 10 feet away, again all of the light on the bumper/trunk/licence plate area, almost nothing on rear windshield/mirrors

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As you can see though, a couple light streaks (that follow the "aggressive eye" design of the headlights" are projected on the light post, but won't be blinding any drivers in front of you as it's soon far right and up


Hopefully this helps, answers some questions, let me know if I missed anything got anything wrong, again it's all personal preference and choice... You don't like it I guess don't do it, but I like them so I choose to do them

Thanks for reading


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Damn, that is very bright. Lol
 

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Probably the best explanation of why you should never put HID's in a halogen based reflector housing:

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/20-exterior-sponsored-r-speed/69869-hid-lights-reflector-housings-reminder-some-you-out-there.html

The only way to do it properly is with the use of a HID projector retrofit. And even that is ever so slightly a poor practice as well. My Audi for example has an auto leveling feature for it's Bi-Xenon's to ensure that they are always level and don't blind other motorists. An HID projector with auto leveling to provide adjustment based on vehicle dynamics and the grade you are driving on is the best approach.
 

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Hey Fernando and others,

I have BK MOTO HID Halo lights with the projectors and ballasts which require me to take out the entire headlight assembly.

Do you have a video or a resource that I could use that shows me how to take out the headlight assembly? If you are near Ottawa, do you know someone who does these installs without charging an arm and a leg?

Thanks!
 
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