Best fuel to use for bikes?

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SpicyNuggets

Discussion Starter · Jan 28, 2013

So boys and girls, just wondering what people put in their bikes and why? Iv been putting 95 in my 250 for the past couple of months now, have a feeling it might have clogged up the fuel injectors. But that's probably from long term use lol
Anywho, tried the 98 and noticed a bit of lag on the bike, wasn't pinging like on the 95... Might try it again next time fill up!
Thoughts?

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Alkeplar

· #161 · Feb 27, 2014 (Edited)

Why can't we be friends? :[

mataleo

· #162 · Feb 27, 2014

Bike runs fine on all
91.95. Premium. Gasohol. Benzine up 2 u

Best would be 95 pure benzine i guess thats what i put sometimes and its run good.

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mania

· #163 · Feb 27, 2014

This is IMHO but,

Regarding fuels & manuals
The manual will state what is the minimum acceptable fuel to use
in a stock Ninja

This is not to be confused with the fact that going to a higher grade
fuel to deal with modifications etc. or even just to try & see for yourself
what results is not a problem again IMHO

Service Manuals suggest DOT 3& 4 for brakes yet most Kawasaki dealers now use DOT 5 etc. etc. etc.

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travvy87

· #164 · Feb 27, 2014

mania said:
This is IMHO but,

Regarding fuels & manuals
The manual will state what is the minimum acceptable fuel to use
in a stock Ninja

This is not to be confused with the fact that going to a higher grade
fuel to deal with modifications etc. or even just to try & see for yourself
what results is not a problem again IMHO

Service Manuals suggest DOT 3& 4 for brakes yet most Kawasaki dealers now use DOT 5 etc. etc. etc.

Sure hope they don't use DOT 5.... maybe DOT 5.1, but DOT 5 is incompatible with DOT3, 4, 5.1, something about the different type of liquid, it'll eat away at the rubber or something else bad?

DaveTheCanuck

· #165 · Feb 27, 2014 (Edited)

travvy87 said:
Sure hope they don't use DOT 5.... maybe DOT 5.1, but DOT 5 is incompatible with DOT3, 4, 5.1, something about the different type of liquid, it'll eat away at the rubber or something else bad?

DOT 5 (silicone based) when combined with DOT 3, 4, or 5.1 (glycol based) will gel.

Edit: nope not getting roped back into this. I'll just drink my 8 glasses of water and piss into my gas tank.

Arcticsoldier

· #166 · Feb 27, 2014

used 91 with the mods below. no problems but have been always using 95 and above.
have been using E10 95 with no problems either
the map loaded for my exhaust on the PC5 has only been altered alittle to avoid knock.
planning on having it dyno tune to E10 95 to get the most out of it.
maps from power commander have only been tuned to 91 so they dont produce the results on the dyno

Spacep0d

· #167 · Feb 27, 2014

So, nobody else is using diesel? Kidding. Don't use diesel. Bad joke.

Alkeplar

· #168 · Feb 27, 2014

Spacep0d said:
So, nobody else is using diesel? Kidding. Don't use diesel. Bad joke.

I just put a gallon in mine. It kinda gave me a little lag.... But I thing its because it was turbo diesel fuel. I could even hear to booster spoiling, I didn't hit maximum boost though, I was scared of the possible 300 psi............ I'm tired bwahahahahahaha

mania

· #169 · Feb 27, 2014

travvy87 said:
Sure hope they don't use DOT 5.... maybe DOT 5.1,

Yeah sorry was typing lazy with the .1 :redface:

cruizin

· #170 · Feb 27, 2014

jeff said:
End of story? Why because you said so? Sorry, I didnt realise you were the supreme authority here. Or is it because the manual states a fact that people are debating? Just as you have in the past? When I hear you asking?

Do we all remember this, because I certainly do:

So which is it cruizin, is the manual wrong or is it that you just didnt want to believe the facts stated? The manual definitely is right with its facts, and nothing had changed on the engines. Facts you didnt want to believe. You simply had a different result, and wanted to debate that. Just as people have different results with fuel and like to debate it. You are not the supreme authority on what is right or wrong, nor the authority on what should or shouldnt be debated on a forum. Especially when you dont believe the facts stated in the manual all the time either.

This is exactly the same as we all said to your debate over oil capacity not too long ago, I think you had forgotten already about that one. We had the answer to how much oil is required to be put in your bike. It was in the manual. Facts that are in the manual. Facts that you tried to tell everyone were wrong. It was stlll debated by you and everyone else yeah? Just as the fuel type is a fact and is in the manual, but is still debated.

So it seems even you cruizin pick and choose which facts you want to believe that are directly stated in that manual. You sure debated that oil capacity fact to the end of the earth, even to the point of going to Kawasaki to try and prove your point to yourself and everyone else that the manual was wrong. Which it wasnt. To the point of trying to tell people maybe something had changed on the engines. Which it hadnt. To the point of posting what you call spreading FUD..........."Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt". What were you doing? Spreading FUD. What was there to debate? The facts were in the manual the whole time. There should have been nothing to debate. End of story.

It should have been end of story. Just as the fuel. But it will still be debated by people that think differently or dont agree. Just as you did for not agreeing with the oil capacity fact stated. So its not end of story, nor will it ever be for those that dont agree with what is stated or have a different experience. Just like some have had with fuel, just like you had with oil.

Now, the debate on what fuel type is best for your bike can continue. The correct fuel type is in the owners manual, those who have read it will know this. If you want to choose to use a different fuel, I and others would still love to hear your reasons for. So we can post reasons against. A debate. On a forum. Very normal stuff.

For those interested on where I got those quotes posted above please see here, it really is a good laugh:

http://www.kawasakininja300.com/forum/11-ninja-300-issues-troubleshooting/9682-engine-oil-level.html

im glad you love reading the facts and im glad you raised this oil debate again as the facts also show im not the only one who used more then 2.4 litres, i see you missed those facts as well, how convenient :roll2smilie::roll2smilie::roll2smilie:

jeff

· #171 · Feb 27, 2014 (Edited)

My god listen to yourself.

Totally sidestepped the fact you contradicted yourself. That is called convenient. What a fucking joke. How many people used more than 2.4L other than you?

2.

I just read the whole thread again to ensure I had my facts right.

And the mounds of people telling you that you were wrong. Even the people that told you to stop.

Oh the manual is wrong. Oh they have changed the oil pan. Oh there must be a difference between 2013 and 2014. Oh.....I cant possibly be wrong. You tell people at the stat of the thread, quite arrogantly, "read the owners manual"........."read the owners manual". And then go on to say its wrong. What a massive contradiction.

Arrogance at its absolute finest.

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Tzar Kizitski

· #172 · Feb 27, 2014

Tzar Kizitski

· #173 · Feb 27, 2014

Spacep0d said:
So, nobody else is using diesel? Kidding. Don't use diesel. Bad joke.

Did you mention diesel? Here's more fuel for the fire! I've pinged this fuel economy comparison video before so check it out...Turbo diesel bike for the future perhaps...
:suspense.001:

:blowup:

opcorn:

xtina

· #174 · Feb 27, 2014

Spacep0d said:
So, nobody else is using diesel? Kidding. Don't use diesel. Bad joke.

Funny this. A guy came to the shop to pick up his bike from winter storage, rode around the corner and accidently filled up with diesel. 5 mins later we get a call bike won't start. 2 hours later after draining the tank and running it a few times all was back to normal.
Moral of the story is if you put diesel in we will laugh at you.

Tzar Kizitski

· #175 · Feb 27, 2014

xtina said:
Funny this. A guy came to the shop to pick up his bike from winter storage, rode around the corner and accidently filled up with diesel. 5 mins later we get a call bike won't start. 2 hours later after draining the tank and running it a few times all was back to normal.
Moral of the story is if you put diesel in we will laugh at you.

Just curious but he didn't by any chance happen to be riding around in a spacesuit getup did he?...:detectivesmilie:

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cruizin

· #176 · Feb 27, 2014 (Edited)

jeff said:
2.

I just read the whole thread again to ensure I had my facts right.
.

i did, here you missed this post

http://www.kawasakininja300.com/for...oting/9682-engine-oil-level-4.html#post556921

your also forgetting there was *another* oil thread and others chimed in to say the used more then the 2.4 , almost 3 litres of it

:roll2smilie::roll2smilie:

here you forgot this one

http://www.kawasakininja300.com/for...0497-oil-running-down-motor-2.html#post524481

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GipsyDanger

· #177 · Feb 27, 2014

this thread is great...never close it

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xtina

· #178 · Feb 27, 2014

:storm: :banging:

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jeff

· #179 · Feb 27, 2014

cruizin said:
i did, here you missed this post

http://www.kawasakininja300.com/for...oting/9682-engine-oil-level-4.html#post556921

your also forgetting there was *another* oil thread and others chimed in to say the used more then the 2.4 , almost 3 litres of it

:roll2smilie::roll2smilie:

here you forgot this one

http://www.kawasakininja300.com/for...0497-oil-running-down-motor-2.html#post524481

Nope didnt forget any, read those too. Not many people in that one that agreed either. The post you linked to, specifically states 2.5L to fill the bike. Which is 100ml or so more than what other people were experiencing, being 2.4L. Still definitely nowhere near 4. Good example, helps my argument progress.

Glad you linked to that thread too. Shows how condescending a lot of your posts are when you think you are right. Just like this one:

http://www.kawasakininja300.com/for...0497-oil-running-down-motor-2.html#post520833

Manual is correct. No parts have changed. Nothing in the motor has changed. Part numbers have changed yes. The bike being sold today, is exactly the same as the bike that was first sold. Except for some recall items, and colour changes.

I still stand by my original statement of the manual is correct. And you want people to not debate facts in the manual. End of story. That's what you stated about the fuel. Right here:

cruizin said:
what is there to debate since Dave provided the answer direct from the manuals about the fuel????

clearly not fuel as we have the answer which is a fact direct from the manual, end of story.

So again, I simply refer back to why do you tell other people to stop debating fuel types, when the answer is a fact directly from the manual. But you felt the need to debate the oil capacity, when the answer is a fact directly from the manual. Very contradicitive, and my whole reason for rebutting you in this thread. The entire reason.

I would like to hear your response, instead of seeing you just rolling around on the floor laughing, on why it is ok for you to debate the facts in the manual, and whilst doing so telling everyone the manual is wrong. Which it isnt. But it is not ok for others to debate facts in the manual about fuel type and you tell everyone to look in the manual because it is right. Im curious on the massive contradiction, and curious to hear if you still think the manual is wrong as you stated earlier. Is it right? Or is it wrong? Or is more the fact that it is right when it suits you and wrong when it suits you.

Premium fuel, regular fuel.......it dont matter anyway. It wont hurt your bike. Overfilling your bike with oil will.

Please refrain from telling other members that they should stop debating facts in the manual, if you debate them yourself. what is good for the goose is good for the gander hey?

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Spacep0d

· #180 · Feb 28, 2014

Tzar Kizitski said:
Just curious but he didn't by any chance happen to be riding around in a spacesuit getup did he?...:detectivesmilie:

Hey I've made some dumb mistakes, but no diesel in a bike. Yet. :blink:

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