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I think he said he tried a known good battery. Though of course they could both be bad.
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I think he said he tried a known good battery. Though of course they could both be bad.
He did say that, but you know how that goes...

I'd still want to know the voltage before and during cranking before moving on to other possibilities.
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I lost my voltage regulator, so I need to get a new one. The battery is a good one. Both are. I checked both on my Gsxr. But I will be attempting to manukau turn the crankshaft tonight after work. After I pull that round plate off, does anyone know the size of the socket? And will it be clockwise or counterclockwise movements?
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I think it's 17mm and counter clockwise. How do you know your regulator is bad?
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On my bike? I think it is fine. I couldn’t tell you though. All fuses checked out so I do t think it’s electrical
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I lost my voltage regulator, so I need to get a new one. The battery is a good one. Both are. I checked both on my Gsxr. But I will be attempting to manukau turn the crankshaft tonight after work. After I pull that round plate off, does anyone know the size of the socket? And will it be clockwise or counterclockwise movements?
If that's the case (I'd still confirm...) then you may have an issue with electrical connections, starter relay, or the starter.

Confirming that the engine spins freely will tell you where to look next.

I'd say the problem is either electrical (battery, connections, relay, starter) or the engine has locked-up due to inadequate oil. Hopefully the former.
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Thanks. I will confirm that it is just electrical, which I am hoping it is. I will keep you all updated when I get home tonight.
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Good evening everyone. I tried turning the crankshaft. It is 14mm clockwise, counter clockwise removes the bolt. In neutral, it wouldn’t budge. I gave it pressure but I didn’t want to beat on it for further damage. This weekend I’m going to be removing the fuel tank and spark plugs and putting some type of lubrication on top of the pistons to loosen them if I can. I’m hoping it unfreezes. If not then I guess it is on to pricing a top end rebuild or just part the motorcycle out. Any suggestions for what I’m about to embark on? I’m thinking marvel mystery oil as my lubrication and then letting it sit over night. Any advice or pointers are welcomed and some fingers crossed. I will keep you all updated. Thanks again.
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If you had to turn it hard enough counter clockwise to remove the bolt then yes the engine is likely seized. Don't turn it clockwise as turning some engines backward can cause the timing chain to fall off. Counter clockwise is the way to go.

If the engine is seized then adding oil to the cylinders isn't going to fix it. That only works when piston rings get stuck from sitting too long. Even if by some miracle it started turning there will be internal damage that isn't going to fix itself.

I'd pull the plugs and try turning it again just to be sure you weren't turning against compression but even if you were it would have still moved.

You really need to drain the oil. Run it through a cloth with a magnet in it so you can check for metal shavings. Did you ever check to see if it has oil in it?
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Draining the oil will tell you more about what's going on. If you find bronze-colored flakes it tells you the plain bearings, and engine, are toast.

Pulling the plugs will make it easier to turn over if it's not stuck, but it doesn't sound good so far.
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