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Does anyone else see that they are riding two up? Maybe it's a 250 and can't get up to 75 easily.

Car was In the wrong all the way. No passing on the right. End of story.


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Oh and ps. The car got into the left lane the same time the truck did. Thus the truck probably didn't intentionally cut him off. But didn't see he was in the left lane. Cause he wasn't.


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Na you cant say that dude, that trucker probably looked behind him, saw no cars except for that one a long way back and changed lanes. Its not his responsibility to check and double check the speed of the car behind him. That car was doing everything it shouldnt. Everyone has praised saying oh good reflexes and all that bullshit, but it would have been a whole different story if he had taken out that bike.

From what I got from that video, the car was in the right hand lane. So was the truck. The truck up ahead my very well have seen him approaching at a high rate of speed, or maybe not, which is why he may have gone into the left lane. OR maybe not. Maybe he was just changing lanes because he could see a car approaching in the same lane. Maybe he was changing lanes as the motorcyclist was travelling slower than he was. Other people are allowed to overtake motorcycles. Either way, the car was still the one at total fault. Again, we would all be talking in a whole different point of view if the video ended with the car wiping out that motorcycle.

Dont defend the driver of that car. I do agree with you about the side streets and people not waiting when there is clearly nobody behind you, but definitely not the actions of that truck in the video being wrong. That car was all in the wrong, and could have potentially killed others. That could have been you and your girlfriend/wife or your mate and his girlfriend/wife on that bike, and he may not have had the same reflex. And devastated two families in the process.

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Oh and ps. The car got into the left lane the same time the truck did. Thus the truck probably didn't intentionally cut him off. But didn't see he was in the left lane. Cause he wasn't.


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I saw the same things as you, obviously. I wasn't defending the car, hence why my first post said all three, technically, were at fault in their own way. My rant of people pulling out was just a general rant about things other drivers do that piss me off. That's all.

Back to the trucker...personally, if I was trucking, before I made a lane change I would make sure no one is next to me. In doing that (since the car was a bit of a distance away) he would have seen a car fast approaching in his CURRENT lane (and if he couldn't see, then his truck is not up to snuff equipment wise as he should have seen that car) THEN...using the round mushy thing between his ears, he should have assumed that, "Hmm...fast car approaching in my lane...he's not just going to slam on his brakes once he reaches me, he's going to go for the pass. What should I do? Oh I know! I should keep my ass in this lane until this idiot in the car flies by, THEN I can pass the motorcycle."

At least, that's how I would have done it. Then again, I like to think that I have a couple of brain cells and that I know how to use them. IMO, the car driver made a bad decision to speed...BUT the truck made that bad decision an even worse decision by his action (and in my opinion lack of awareness/common sense). He just added to the domino affect...luckily that biker (and his passenger) didn't end up as highway road kill.

Yeah, I'm a hater. We can all agree on that .

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Here's the Youtube video in its entirety. You got to love the ending! You can hear at the end someone cursing, "frick'n people"...wow!

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Hmm okay. After that full video, it's a little different. Trucker probably did check his mirror slightly before and because the car with the camera was behind the Volvo SUV he didn't see him...and the Volvo SUV was NOT fast approaching so trucker probably thought he was clear the whole time.

Car was not necessarily 'flying' as the first GIF suggested. I was expecting him to be going a lot faster.

I stand corrected. Good find StarNinja.

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Ilya! Seriously, you probably should hang up your keys!
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Car was driving wrecklessly. You have to be able to see the path ahead of you far enough for you to stop if something appears at your current speed, excluding wildlife darting in to the road.

Some of the first advive I got when I began Motorcycling was "on the freeway/highway always be going a little faster than traffic. This puts you in control rather than other cars being in control."

Not sure how good that advice is, but I often ponder it.

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Ilya! Seriously, you probably should hang up your keys!
Why? Because I'm calling out one of your industry brethren not for CAUSING the accident but certainly playing a role in it? As if it's impossible for a trucker to be a horrible driver. lol.

Read the post before yours, with more evidence I had a different opinion and stood corrected. Relax.

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Yeah I skipped those posts from when I read your comments about thecar not even considering slowing and just shooting for the pass! I know theres plenty of dickhead truck drivers out there, I was more worried about the innocent motorists or yourself that you are going to kill one day!
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