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Electrical Issue? I'm about to sell this POS.

Hey all,

I have a 2014 Ninja 300 with ABS. I have a few issues, I'm not sure if they're related, but I'll lay them out.

1) the ABS light never turns off. Ever. Even after riding for 30+ minutes.

2) I recently had an issue with power delivery. I could be applying throttle and it would cut all power (without the bike dying), return, cut out, return, etc. It would do it about 3-4 times in 3 seconds. It makes the entire bike "buck".

3) While coming up to a light, I pulled in the clutch, downshifted, and the entire bike died. The engine died, the whole panel flickered and then went dead. I thumbed the start switch and it started right back up.

I realize #3 was an issue for the 2013 bikes, but I believe this was fixed for 2014? I also heard their was a recall for the ABS in 2013. Again, I thought it wasn't an issue for 2014? I called a dealer and they state there are no open recalls or bulletins on the VIN.

Any suggestions? I thought #2 and #3 could be a kickstand switch, but it looks absolutely fine and the other ways of diagnosing the switch all check out fine. Any suggestions?
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Still under warranty, or have extended warranty? If so, take it in have Kawasaki deal with it.

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Out of warranty since April!

I'm seriously disgusted with Kawi's build quality. I like the bike.... when it works. It's only worked for about 1 month out of the 3 I've had it.
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Ouch! I'm sorry to hear. Don't have an answer to your problems...just here to give moral support. Just a thought, would Kawi offer recall service for a 2014 bike that shows symptoms that the 2013s had? Maybe give Kawi headquarters a call to find out. How many miles on the bike?
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Yeah, what cadd said. Sucks considering most haven't had issues like these with the bike. Any mods on the bike? Ever had any work done on it by yourself/friend/mechanic? I'd personally take it into the dealership or shop and have them take a look at it and try and figure it out. May cost you some money, but doesn't sound like you have much choice at this point.

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This isn't a build quality issue, this is a maintenance issue.

These are not issues that many people are experiencing. You were not the first owner of the bike, so unless there's something you're failing to tell us, then the previous owner of the bike may have broken something or did not maintain it properly.

Issue #2 and #3 are most likely related. #1 not necessarily, but possibly.

Rule out some basic variables first...

1. Battery: Double check both pos/neg terminals are securely fastened, and that they are clean of corrosion.
2. Electrical: Check all fuses and all harness connections under the seat. Make sure they are all securely connected.
3. Fuel: This could be caused by bad fuel. Run the tank near empty and fill it up with good, fresh fuel. Use a different station than you normally do.
4. Air: Open the airbox and check that the filter is clean and that the airbox is clear of any debris and obstructions (mice and other critters like to nest in here if left sitting)
5. Oil: Check that your oil level is OK. Check the oil drain plug on the airbox (drain if necessary). Do a fresh oil change if possible.

How many miles on the bike?


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#2, depending on the scenario (if the bike is bucking while you're accelerating), can also be caused by a slipping clutch.

Check that your clutch lever is properly adjusted as per the owner's manual. Also make sure that motorcycle oil was used in the engine and not automotive oil.


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This isn't a build quality issue, this is a maintenance issue.

These are not issues that many people are experiencing. You were not the first owner of the bike, so unless there's something you're failing to tell us, then the previous owner of the bike may have broken something or did not maintain it properly.

Issue #2 and #3 are most likely related. #1 not necessarily, but possibly.

Rule out some basic variables first...

1. Battery: Double check both pos/neg terminals are securely fastened, and that they are clean of corrosion.
2. Electrical: Check all fuses and all harness connections under the seat. Make sure they are all securely connected.
3. Fuel: This could be caused by bad fuel. Run the tank near empty and fill it up with good, fresh fuel. Use a different station than you normally do.
4. Air: Open the airbox and check that the filter is clean and that the airbox is clear of any debris and obstructions (mice and other critters like to nest in here if left sitting)
5. Oil: Check that your oil level is OK. Check the oil drain plug on the airbox (drain if necessary). Do a fresh oil change if possible.

How many miles on the bike?

Oil drain plug on the airbox? Did not know that there was such a thing? Is this separate from the oil drain plug at the bottom of the engine on the throttle side?

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#2, depending on the scenario (if the bike is bucking while you're accelerating), can also be caused by a slipping clutch.

Check that your clutch lever is properly adjusted as per the owner's manual. Also make sure that motorcycle oil was used in the engine and not automotive oil.
How would one be able to tell the difference? Something discernable by the naked eye?

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Oil drain plug on the airbox? Did not know that there was such a thing? Is this separate from the oil drain plug at the bottom of the engine on the throttle side?
Yes. Left side of the bike, on the side of the airbox there's a clear rubber plug (clear so you can see if there's oil in there).

The PCV system drains any excess oil into the airbox. If the bike tips over, oil will also leak back into the airbox. The drain plug is there to empty it.


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How would one be able to tell the difference? Something discernable by the naked eye?
Visually? Nope.

Assuming the OP performed the latest oil change, I'm suggesting he check the oil he used. If he has not yet done an oil change since buying the bike, he should with proper moto oil.


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This actually sounds like an electrical issue with your power shorting somewhere. That bucking you're feeling while the display and lights are flickering is the ECU rapidly gaining and losing power interrupting fueling and making it choppy. If you're not the original owner, check all aftermarket accessories the previous owner installed and make sure the wiring harnesses aren't trashed and if they tapped into a wiring harness that it's properly tapped and covered/sealed. Also, as said previously, check all electrical connectors to make sure that they are SECURE. Loose connections will do as you describe as they just barely make and break connections based on moving around. One of the things that makes me think that it's a short somewhere is the ABS unit light. The ABS unit is very electrically sensitive so if a short goes through the system, the ABS unit's logic circuit fails pretty easily.

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