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Arrow CBR250RR (rumored CBR350RR) won't be coming to North America and here's why

So looks like the CBR250RR(or rumored CBR350RR) won't be coming to North America.

Apparently Honda thinks that there's no market in North America for small displacement high performance sportbikes.
Unlike people in Asia or Europe, people in North America(USA and Canada) think that small bikes are only for beginners and not for performance riding.

We have the CBR300R, which is great for beginners and that satisfies the requirement.

https://canadamotoguide.com/2016/07/...north-america/

The second problem is pricing.
Honda is selling the CBR250RR for 756,000 yen.
Just by quick comparison to the Honda USA pricing(http://powersports.honda.com/), you can tell that Honda is selling at the conversion rate of 100 yen = $1 US
So if Honda were to bring the CBR250RR(or 350RR) to North America, it will be sold at approx. $7,560 US.
http://www.honda.co.jp/motor-lineup/?from=top_pulldown

North Americans look at small displacement bikes as beginners bike, not for performance riding, so if they had to sell it for $7,560(or perhaps $8,000+ after changing the bore/stroke), it will be a immediate deal breaker.

As you can see in Honda Japan's website, they're selling the CBR250R(North America's 300R) and CBR250RR at the same time.

That's because the CBR250RR is NOT a replacement for the CBR250R, they're completely different model just like CBR600RR and CBR650F.

So yea, if you know anyone who is saving up for the CBR350RR, just tell them to get a 600 or other 300cc bikes.
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So yea, if you know anyone who is saving up for the CBR350RR, just tell them to get a 600 or other 300cc bikes.
I still like the theory that a premium brand like Triumph could get away with a similar product/price in USA. I don't think any of the big four could get away with it profitably. edit: but Triumph is stuck on pumping out 20 variations of the Bonneville, low tech high profit product.

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What a shame :/ I would love to see a 250cc inline-four come to the states. But as you said, there's such a stigma here against such 'beginner' bikes.
250cc, inline-four, 50+ hp, adjustable inverted forks, dual front rotors, clip ons, ride modes. That sounds like so much fun!
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I hope Canada gets it even though US might not

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What a shame :/ I would love to see a 250cc inline-four come to the states. But as you said, there's such a stigma here against such 'beginner' bikes.
250cc, inline-four, 50+ hp, adjustable inverted forks, dual front rotors, clip ons, ride modes. That sounds like so much fun!
Since we're talking about possibly reaching approx $8,000 for a CBR250RR (Parallel Twin), 250cc 50+hp Inline-4 with dual disks and all the other extras could reach approx. $10,000.

For that kind of price, I think North Americans would rather have 600cc because unlike Asia & Europe, North America(USA and Canada) have much larger highways and all that.
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Any word on when the Ninja 300 will get an update? I just bought mine so I hope it will be a while longer.
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These are low cost bikes with not a lot of profit, I wouldn't be looking for meaningful changes for years. It's on year 5 already (2013-2017). Honestly another 5 years wouldn't surprise me.
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As per "Young Machine" something's cooking at Kawasaki. This is their latest "news/rendering". As per them it might get USD forks, LED lights, lighter frame, etc. Engine will most likely be an updated twin cylinder.

Another thing that was talked about recently was an interview by "TMC blog" of a gentleman named Michael Tanadhi, who is Deputy Head of Sales & promotion, Kawasaki Indonesia. When asked about the rumours of a 4 cylinder 250, he said it is still in the Survey stage. Things like target customer, Marketing, Pricing, etc. are being considered. He said nothing about a new Ninja 250 though. Saying he has confidence in the present Ninja 250.

I translated the above the best I could using the internet. There are some websites that mentioned the same thing, but I wanted to see the "source".

I have provided link below(scroll down for relevant section).
http://tmcblog.com/2017/03/03/dari-n...if-dengan-kmi/
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Any word on when the Ninja 300 will get an update? I just bought mine so I hope it will be a while longer.
There have been some speculations but no official word from Kawasaki yet.


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These are low cost bikes with not a lot of profit, I wouldn't be looking for meaningful changes for years. It's on year 5 already (2013-2017). Honestly another 5 years wouldn't surprise me.
I agree.

If anything, maybe some cosmetic upgrades and minor updates like what Kawasaki did to the ZX-10R.

As you said, this is a low budget bike, even if you look at 2008 Ninja 250R, there are a lot of things that are interchangeable, or if you look at all the parts and main components like engine & frame, there are so many resemblance.

I doubt Kawasaki will redesign/redevelop a completely new bike from ground up. (not to say it's impossible, considering they redesigned the frame for Ninja 650)

But if you look at bikes in this market, CBR500R got a new body updates and new exhaust, etc...that's about it.

Sure, you can argue that CBR250RR might bring up the bar and force Kawasaki to update the Ninja 300, but Honda isn't even selling that in North America.

Also Suzuki didn't even bother giving 300cc displacement for the GSX250R for North American market.

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