So I was window shopping for some Driven Racing accessories and came across an Infrared Tire Temperature Monitor kit for a pretty pricey label. So an alternative I thought of is to buy a $20 infrared thermometer off of amazon and just shoot the laser at the tires whenever I wan't to know the temperatures.
My question is, what is considered "warm" and the tires ready to attack corners. What should the front be and rear be in fahrenheit. Are they the same or different. What are the differences in temperature needed to run a 120/150 rosso III set up vs a 110/140 S20 Evo Set up.
If you could share your knowledge, it'd be greatly appreciated!
If you are just riding on the street and using street tires, this should not be much of an issue as street tires warm up quickly. When you go out for a ride take it easy for a few minutes. Let the tires warm up under acceleration and braking (swerving left and right does not warm up a tire - just makes you look silly). On the street before your tires give up grip you will lose traction due to bad cornering techniques and debrie on the road.
At the track people who don't run warmers and are on street tires can start a session with a good pace. They let them warm up for a lap and they are generally good to pick up the pace next lap (if it's not freezing cold out).
On the track I always was about 180 getting off the track and also 180 getting on thanks to adjustable warmers.
Normal street riding it varies. Anywhere from 120 to 150 can be considered warmed up.
For those railing corners, the look of the wear pattern is more important than the temperature. Often I don't even have to check the tire pressures because I know how to adjust it based on the wear pattern look and feel.
I've tried to get Dunlop to give me information about the proper operating temperature for the Q3 and they were very reluctant to say anything. All they told me was to set the tire pressure to 36/36psi and you'd be good for every riding condition under the sun. (I don't believe that for a second either.) They also stated that the Q3 is rated down to 60/60F ambient/tarmac temperature. Now that I believe. (Given that I crashed on a Q3 and is was about 48/48F ambient/tarmac and the tires were like ice I believe their temperature rating.) I think Dunlop is afraid of legal liability if they were to give out operating temperature information. The down side is that operating temperature data combined with pressure data can make for a safer experience. Try contacting the tire manufacturer rep. and see what they're willing to give up. Surely this is a test the manufacturer would have run on the tire and they have the data.
(My avatar pic is from my Q3 experience in the cold. Turn 1 at COTA.)
is there an approximate ambient temp that is too cold for street tires to properly warm up? im pretty new to riding and was wondering if there is an approximate temperature where the tire should not be pushed too hard? maybe below 60F? TIA
That's a hard question to answer with a ton of variables at play. Basic rule of thumb:
The colder it is outside and the less the road is traveled, the less aggressive you should be.
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