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What Would You Have Done: Lane Merging Edition



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As motorcyclists, we’re all too familiar with car drivers merging into our lanes, seemingly blind to the fact we’re occupying the lane they are trying to merge into. But what’s proper etiquette when a two-lane road turns into one? Which order should vehicles in a double-file line let each other into a single-file line? Whatever your answer, it’s probably not what this woman was thinking as she comes from behind this motorcyclist and co-occupies the lane he’s in. He then gets upset, honks the horn a few times, gives the driver a quick lesson in merging, calls her a choice expletive then rides on.

Normally that’s where a story like this would end. Instead, he spots a police officer up ahead, flags him down, and sticks him on the car driver.
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I don't think he went too far. That lady seriously needed a reality check, she doesn't get to do whatever she feels is justified, she has to follow the laws. Her lane was the one that ended so it's her responsibility to get into the left lane safely. What else are the police for? It's their job to help with citizen complaints. I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation, possibly exactly the same way. I ride with a camera so I have evidence of others' stupidity.

With that being said, I am not about to put myself in danger when other people want to be stupid. You have to use common sense, I wouldn't have risked getting run over. No one cares about your life but yourself so it's your responsibility to make sure you don't die over something stupid like this lady's huge ego. Too many motorcyclists die over ridiculous road rage incidents which escalate far too quickly, and factually that honda is much bigger than the bike he's on.

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Positioning positioning positioning. In that situation, after the first intersection I would have plopped myself on the right side of the left lane, nearer to the white line to visually occupy the full lane. In the video, the rider is nearer the middle or even the right side. The car driver is 100% at fault, however with a little positioning, the "apparent" space disappears. If she can't see a "lane" (or a third of a lane), then it's less likely she will try and share. That being said, if she's coming on over anyway I'll yield. Rather be slowed down by one car length than "dead right".

Flagging down the cop was 100% justified. If a cager BULLIES their way into a lane that's not theirs, it is not likely the first time and certainly won't be the last time. Trying to sort it out on your own will just leave both parties furious, where as a fine for failure to yield may teach a lesson, even if the only lesson learned is "I don't want to pay expensive fines so maybe I should actually try following some of the rules of the road." If that second-guessing saves even just one person from getting run the-eff over, it is worth it.
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This happens all the time. Especially in high traffic urban environments. 99% of the time, I just let it go. Not worth it to "be right" and get in front of some:
A - Asshat
B - Incompetent driver
C - Crazy driver
D - Road rage driver
E - Driver who may have had a really bad day.
F - Mentally unstable driver
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I think driving a motorcycle is a blend of knowing when to be aggressive and when to be submissive. In this situation as soon as I saw that car pass my front wheel she can have that lane. Its really not worth it to jockey for position, especially since none of us are being paid to race.

If we were in the wild, as animals (stay with me here), the bigger/stronger/more powerful animal would be the top of the food chain and our little scrawny rabbit like body would not be at the bottom. In a nutshell, that is how I approach motorcycling. I am fast and quick and nimble but I will always stay out of your way.
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I would have done the same thing or taken the video and sent it to the police with a clear shot of her license plate if i don't see a cop around.

The rider is justified in flagging the cop. I do recommend getting out of their way after the initial interaction though - not worth it to risk our lives fighting with a car.
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One of the things I try to do when I know there's a Merge coming up is #1 heed the merge signs and not be in the lane that's ending. #2 Get in position to defend the crap outta my lane. In this case that would have meant getting to the far right of the left hand lane. I'm claiming it; it's mine. #3 I'm watching traffic behind me to make sure no one's about to come flying around and cut me off or squeeze in front. We're on bikes, we've got the size advantage and acceleration advantage. If someone is coming up from the lane that ends and I don't want them in front of me, I give it the beans and stay in front of them ... or let 'em go. If I choose to stay in front I can always increase the gap to the vehicle in front of me after we're down to one lane.

That being said, CrashTestDave got lucky. He screwed up on many levels. Was he in the right? Yes. But we're talking about a 300lb motorcycle vs. a 3000lb car (with an ignorant driver.) It's a simple matter of weight ratios. On the bike you've got to have a much higher situational awareness. CTD got lucky.

The one thing I wanted to see was the outcome. He got the police involved but never said what happened. This leaves me to believe nothing came of this encounter.

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Ugh, why is the edit option missing from my post? I have an error I want to correct and the option to edit isn't there! Stupid forum.

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Except this wasn't ignorance. She did this deliberately and knew full well that the biker was there. She even smiles a little as he's telling her off. I see this more as a situation as wolf, sheepdog and sheep dynamic more. You have regular cars (sheep) you have ass hole drivers pretending they're like regular cars (wolf in sheep's clothing.) and you have motorcyclists small dogs acting as wolf bait. The little dog flushed out a wolf and got him to bite, then went to the big sheep dog (cop) to do his thing. I got q

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