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Unable to start engine while in gear

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#1 ·
Just changed my oil and everything went smooth. For some reason I can't start the engine while in gear. The kickstand is up and the kill switch is off. It starts just fine in neutral. I've tested the kill switch, kickstand switch and they both work as intended. What could be the problem? Wondering if I hit something or accidentally knocked something out of adjustment. Checking before I decide to take it in.
 
#4 ·
Stock or aftermarket levers?
 
#7 ·
I think it might have something to do with your kickstand. When the kickstand goes up it must activate a switch which tells the ecu that it's up (my beliefs... I'm not a mechanic nor have I ever even looked at the workings of the kickstand on my 300) I would start there then move on to the clutch safety switch...
 
#11 · (Edited)
The clutch switch works because I had the bike on and put the kickstand down and it stopped the bike. Not only that I wouldn't be able to ride it if the switch was broke.


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Now check your clutch switch.

Thats the kickstand switch that stops the bike when you put it down. So there is nothing wrong with your kickstand switch, as old3 mentioned right from the start, it is your clutch safety switch.

And the switch on the clutch doesnt stop you riding your bike, the only function it has is to allow you to start your bike if it is in gear, whilst you hold the clutch in. If your clutch is not in and you try to start the bike in gear, that switch is not activated and it will not allow you to start bike.

These are both similar safety functions. One stops you taking off with your kickstand down, one stops you from starting your bike in gear without the clutch engaged. If you have your clutch in, the bike is in gear, kickstand is up and it wont start, check this switch.

Two steps to find cause, always check kickstand switch first to eliminate as a problem as it is the simplest one:

1. Kickstand down, bike in neutral......try to start. When bike starts, put it in gear with kickstand still down. If it cuts out, your kickstand switch is fine. If bike is still running, your kickstand switch is no good.

2. Kickstand up, bike in gear, clutch held.........try to start. If no start, check clutch switch for correct operation. If it does start, clutch switch is fine.
 
#13 ·
Now I feel like an idiot. So changing the oil wasn't the only thing I did. I also put on the foam grips mentioned in another thread. The foam is just thick enough to keep the clutch from going all the way in to the grip. I squeezed a little harder and the bike started right up. I had to adjust my throttle lock when I put on the new grips. Not sure why I didn't think of it. Thanks to Jeff for getting me in the right direction.


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#14 ·
Now I feel like an idiot. So changing the oil wasn't the only thing I did. I also put on the foam grips mentioned in another thread. The foam is just thick enough to keep the clutch from going all the way in to the grip. I squeezed a little harder and the bike started right up. I had to adjust my throttle lock when I put on the new grips. Not sure why I didn't think of it. Thanks to Jeff for getting me in the right direction.


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Glad you sorted it out.
 
#17 ·
Your kick stand is down.... Noob here. Is anyone's left handle bar closer to the gas tank then the right? I dropped mine it landed on my leg did some damage to the foot shifter scratched the bar end and clutch lever . But more concerned if the bar bent don't remember how it was before I dropped it. I've seen someone ask about it and I'm just curious if everyone's is like that because no one answered the question ?
 
#18 · (Edited)
Nothing to do with his kickstand, read the entire thread.

My bars are the exact same distance to the tank, except for when I turn them of course. Take a measuring tape to them when then front wheel is straight and measure the distance from bar end to a fixed same point on both sides. I have seen a set of the 300's bars bend before and can imagine is very possible in a dropped situation.

But we wont be able to ascertain that for you, you will need to manually measure that via your own means. We can all guess, only you will be able to confirm.
 
#19 ·
Yeah I should have finished the thread I jumped the gun. The reason it's making me think the left side is closer cuz the horn is closer to the tank then the starter button is... The bar end and the clutch has barely a scratch. I tried asking on other forums but no one answered. And I think I measured it right it seems the same at the bar ends
 
#20 ·
Would this same issue with the throttle lock cause me to have the same problem with my ASV levers?
 
#23 ·
When I look at the switch the lever actually keeps the switch pin compressed until you pull the clutch lever in. When you pull the lever it lets the pin out. The only thing I can think of is to cut just a tiny amount of the tip off allowing the pin to fully release. I haven't done that yet until I know for sure that's the only solution.


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#24 ·
I think it work the same as the front brake lever switch.I think there is a spring and a screw that you can turn to adjust it but I'm not sure.I'm assuming that it would be like this.I don't actually know.